now my parents, grandparents, educators. we never had a conversation about achieving the american dream. i would like to know really, what is the american dream? we have only just work here and accomplish things in america. we have never taught our children about achieving the american dream. i think we need to talk about what is the american dream before we have the conversation about whether it has been downsized or not. that is all i have to say. host: let's go to virginia to hear from an independent caller. caller: i think the american dream has been downsized. i am 57 years old. 20 years ago if you got a job, your medical was covered. if you bad until you were on top of the world. -- if you got dentil you were on top of the world. any chain that is hiring, they usually start you off at about $10 an hour. that is $1,600 a month. and you have rent, $4 a gallon gas, your insurance, car, everything out of $1,600 a month. your house and all of that. i do not know. they started this 401k thing somewhere along the line when i